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I stumble across a weird behaviour today.
After adding a user to a new group like so :



# gpasswd -a test myuser


then connecting to a new bash session, here are the result for groups and groups myuser:



myuser@mycomputer$ groups
wheel myuser
myuser@mycomputer$ groups myuser
wheel myuser test


Only if I reboot the output of groups will be the same as groups myuser, but not necessary showing the groups in the same order.



So my question is simple : why ?



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    I stumble across a weird behaviour today.
    After adding a user to a new group like so :



    # gpasswd -a test myuser


    then connecting to a new bash session, here are the result for groups and groups myuser:



    myuser@mycomputer$ groups
    wheel myuser
    myuser@mycomputer$ groups myuser
    wheel myuser test


    Only if I reboot the output of groups will be the same as groups myuser, but not necessary showing the groups in the same order.



    So my question is simple : why ?



    Thanks !










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      I stumble across a weird behaviour today.
      After adding a user to a new group like so :



      # gpasswd -a test myuser


      then connecting to a new bash session, here are the result for groups and groups myuser:



      myuser@mycomputer$ groups
      wheel myuser
      myuser@mycomputer$ groups myuser
      wheel myuser test


      Only if I reboot the output of groups will be the same as groups myuser, but not necessary showing the groups in the same order.



      So my question is simple : why ?



      Thanks !










      share|improve this question







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      I stumble across a weird behaviour today.
      After adding a user to a new group like so :



      # gpasswd -a test myuser


      then connecting to a new bash session, here are the result for groups and groups myuser:



      myuser@mycomputer$ groups
      wheel myuser
      myuser@mycomputer$ groups myuser
      wheel myuser test


      Only if I reboot the output of groups will be the same as groups myuser, but not necessary showing the groups in the same order.



      So my question is simple : why ?



      Thanks !







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          Because changes to group membership only take effect after starting a new login shell. Starting a new non-login interactive shell session (which is what you get when you open a new termina) is irrelevant.



          So, when you run groups, that prints the groups your user is currently in. However, those were set up when your user first logged in and cannot be changed until you log in again. Therefore, groups doesn't include your new group.



          On the other hand, when you run groups myuser, the system doesn't look for the groups the current user belongs to at the moment, it looks up the groups that the user myuser belongs to, which it gets by reading the settings file (/etc/group, presumably). Since your user is set up to belong to the new group in /etc/groups, this command shows that as well, even though you're not currently in that group since you haven't logged in again.






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          Because changes to group membership only take effect after starting a new login shell. Starting a new non-login interactive shell session (which is what you get when you open a new termina) is irrelevant.



          So, when you run groups, that prints the groups your user is currently in. However, those were set up when your user first logged in and cannot be changed until you log in again. Therefore, groups doesn't include your new group.



          On the other hand, when you run groups myuser, the system doesn't look for the groups the current user belongs to at the moment, it looks up the groups that the user myuser belongs to, which it gets by reading the settings file (/etc/group, presumably). Since your user is set up to belong to the new group in /etc/groups, this command shows that as well, even though you're not currently in that group since you haven't logged in again.






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          Because changes to group membership only take effect after starting a new login shell. Starting a new non-login interactive shell session (which is what you get when you open a new termina) is irrelevant.



          So, when you run groups, that prints the groups your user is currently in. However, those were set up when your user first logged in and cannot be changed until you log in again. Therefore, groups doesn't include your new group.



          On the other hand, when you run groups myuser, the system doesn't look for the groups the current user belongs to at the moment, it looks up the groups that the user myuser belongs to, which it gets by reading the settings file (/etc/group, presumably). Since your user is set up to belong to the new group in /etc/groups, this command shows that as well, even though you're not currently in that group since you haven't logged in again.






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          Because changes to group membership only take effect after starting a new login shell. Starting a new non-login interactive shell session (which is what you get when you open a new termina) is irrelevant.



          So, when you run groups, that prints the groups your user is currently in. However, those were set up when your user first logged in and cannot be changed until you log in again. Therefore, groups doesn't include your new group.



          On the other hand, when you run groups myuser, the system doesn't look for the groups the current user belongs to at the moment, it looks up the groups that the user myuser belongs to, which it gets by reading the settings file (/etc/group, presumably). Since your user is set up to belong to the new group in /etc/groups, this command shows that as well, even though you're not currently in that group since you haven't logged in again.






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          Because changes to group membership only take effect after starting a new login shell. Starting a new non-login interactive shell session (which is what you get when you open a new termina) is irrelevant.



          So, when you run groups, that prints the groups your user is currently in. However, those were set up when your user first logged in and cannot be changed until you log in again. Therefore, groups doesn't include your new group.



          On the other hand, when you run groups myuser, the system doesn't look for the groups the current user belongs to at the moment, it looks up the groups that the user myuser belongs to, which it gets by reading the settings file (/etc/group, presumably). Since your user is set up to belong to the new group in /etc/groups, this command shows that as well, even though you're not currently in that group since you haven't logged in again.







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