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I got an interview call from a company after a friend referred me for a vacancy in his team. The call was from team manager and not any HR personal. One interview for upcoming week was scheduled. Since my current employer does not support WFH (Work From home), I scheduled the interview for morning and informed my manager that I would be running late. After waiting for good half an hour I came to know through my friend that the person who called me was on emergency leave.



3 days later without any warning they sent me a coding test to complete within 24 hours. This was on Thursday. I had a release on Friday and had to work overtime on Thursday and didn't get any off time to complete the test and the link expired.



I feel the company should have asked me about my availability before sending a test like this especially on a weekday.



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    If this is an example of how they organize themselves, do you really want to join them?

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    5 hours ago






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    Somya - I'm guessing this is in India...correct me if I'm wrong.

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    5 hours ago






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    @Fattie Which can be very hard without access to your personal mail and overtime (or company policy to disallow such). Also, when I got 20 mails over a days period, and I come home late, I am not going through them just to see if there is an expiring link in it.

    – Patrick Hofman
    1 hour ago







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    @PatrickHofman And even if it's not technically hard to access your email, if I'm working overtime I'm most likely not checking my email or social media or whatever.

    – Tomáš Zato
    53 mins ago






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    Guys, if you're actively trying to change jobs and prefer to do that while keeping your current job , you're going to have to aggressively glance at your personal email on your phone, a couple of times a day during pee breaks and the like.

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I got an interview call from a company after a friend referred me for a vacancy in his team. The call was from team manager and not any HR personal. One interview for upcoming week was scheduled. Since my current employer does not support WFH (Work From home), I scheduled the interview for morning and informed my manager that I would be running late. After waiting for good half an hour I came to know through my friend that the person who called me was on emergency leave.



3 days later without any warning they sent me a coding test to complete within 24 hours. This was on Thursday. I had a release on Friday and had to work overtime on Thursday and didn't get any off time to complete the test and the link expired.



I feel the company should have asked me about my availability before sending a test like this especially on a weekday.



My question is how to reply to them now?










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  • 55





    If this is an example of how they organize themselves, do you really want to join them?

    – Solar Mike
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Somya - I'm guessing this is in India...correct me if I'm wrong.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    @Fattie Which can be very hard without access to your personal mail and overtime (or company policy to disallow such). Also, when I got 20 mails over a days period, and I come home late, I am not going through them just to see if there is an expiring link in it.

    – Patrick Hofman
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    @PatrickHofman And even if it's not technically hard to access your email, if I'm working overtime I'm most likely not checking my email or social media or whatever.

    – Tomáš Zato
    53 mins ago






  • 2





    Guys, if you're actively trying to change jobs and prefer to do that while keeping your current job , you're going to have to aggressively glance at your personal email on your phone, a couple of times a day during pee breaks and the like.

    – Fattie
    51 mins ago














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I got an interview call from a company after a friend referred me for a vacancy in his team. The call was from team manager and not any HR personal. One interview for upcoming week was scheduled. Since my current employer does not support WFH (Work From home), I scheduled the interview for morning and informed my manager that I would be running late. After waiting for good half an hour I came to know through my friend that the person who called me was on emergency leave.



3 days later without any warning they sent me a coding test to complete within 24 hours. This was on Thursday. I had a release on Friday and had to work overtime on Thursday and didn't get any off time to complete the test and the link expired.



I feel the company should have asked me about my availability before sending a test like this especially on a weekday.



My question is how to reply to them now?










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I got an interview call from a company after a friend referred me for a vacancy in his team. The call was from team manager and not any HR personal. One interview for upcoming week was scheduled. Since my current employer does not support WFH (Work From home), I scheduled the interview for morning and informed my manager that I would be running late. After waiting for good half an hour I came to know through my friend that the person who called me was on emergency leave.



3 days later without any warning they sent me a coding test to complete within 24 hours. This was on Thursday. I had a release on Friday and had to work overtime on Thursday and didn't get any off time to complete the test and the link expired.



I feel the company should have asked me about my availability before sending a test like this especially on a weekday.



My question is how to reply to them now?







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  • 55





    If this is an example of how they organize themselves, do you really want to join them?

    – Solar Mike
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Somya - I'm guessing this is in India...correct me if I'm wrong.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    @Fattie Which can be very hard without access to your personal mail and overtime (or company policy to disallow such). Also, when I got 20 mails over a days period, and I come home late, I am not going through them just to see if there is an expiring link in it.

    – Patrick Hofman
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    @PatrickHofman And even if it's not technically hard to access your email, if I'm working overtime I'm most likely not checking my email or social media or whatever.

    – Tomáš Zato
    53 mins ago






  • 2





    Guys, if you're actively trying to change jobs and prefer to do that while keeping your current job , you're going to have to aggressively glance at your personal email on your phone, a couple of times a day during pee breaks and the like.

    – Fattie
    51 mins ago













  • 55





    If this is an example of how they organize themselves, do you really want to join them?

    – Solar Mike
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Somya - I'm guessing this is in India...correct me if I'm wrong.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    @Fattie Which can be very hard without access to your personal mail and overtime (or company policy to disallow such). Also, when I got 20 mails over a days period, and I come home late, I am not going through them just to see if there is an expiring link in it.

    – Patrick Hofman
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    @PatrickHofman And even if it's not technically hard to access your email, if I'm working overtime I'm most likely not checking my email or social media or whatever.

    – Tomáš Zato
    53 mins ago






  • 2





    Guys, if you're actively trying to change jobs and prefer to do that while keeping your current job , you're going to have to aggressively glance at your personal email on your phone, a couple of times a day during pee breaks and the like.

    – Fattie
    51 mins ago








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If this is an example of how they organize themselves, do you really want to join them?

– Solar Mike
5 hours ago





If this is an example of how they organize themselves, do you really want to join them?

– Solar Mike
5 hours ago




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Somya - I'm guessing this is in India...correct me if I'm wrong.

– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago





Somya - I'm guessing this is in India...correct me if I'm wrong.

– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago




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@Fattie Which can be very hard without access to your personal mail and overtime (or company policy to disallow such). Also, when I got 20 mails over a days period, and I come home late, I am not going through them just to see if there is an expiring link in it.

– Patrick Hofman
1 hour ago






@Fattie Which can be very hard without access to your personal mail and overtime (or company policy to disallow such). Also, when I got 20 mails over a days period, and I come home late, I am not going through them just to see if there is an expiring link in it.

– Patrick Hofman
1 hour ago





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@PatrickHofman And even if it's not technically hard to access your email, if I'm working overtime I'm most likely not checking my email or social media or whatever.

– Tomáš Zato
53 mins ago





@PatrickHofman And even if it's not technically hard to access your email, if I'm working overtime I'm most likely not checking my email or social media or whatever.

– Tomáš Zato
53 mins ago




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Guys, if you're actively trying to change jobs and prefer to do that while keeping your current job , you're going to have to aggressively glance at your personal email on your phone, a couple of times a day during pee breaks and the like.

– Fattie
51 mins ago






Guys, if you're actively trying to change jobs and prefer to do that while keeping your current job , you're going to have to aggressively glance at your personal email on your phone, a couple of times a day during pee breaks and the like.

– Fattie
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Yes, it was unexpected and should have happened in a better way.



However, you did one mistake here, you should have immediately responded to them declining to take the test (exactly the reasons what you've said in the question). However, if you still did not communicate anything after receiving the email, it's still not too late, take action as soon as possible.



Reply to them in a way which:



  • Lists the previous incidents happened (uninformed cancellation, no heads up etc)

  • Still shows a positive attitude to resolve the issue and get going forward

  • Sounding confident and not desperate for the job.

Something along the lines of:




"Hello, I'm sorry to inform that I could not complete the coding test you sent me.



However, I'd like to also inform that the previous interview which was scheduled did not take place, without any prior information. The follow up test, also showed up without any prior notice, thereby I could not take proper actions.



I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted and the timings to be confirmed well in advance this time so that I can plan my work accordingly. Please let me know when is a good time to discuss about the availability and put something in the calendar so it works smoothly for all of us.



Regards, Somya"




In case they comply, you can go ahead. However, if they do not seem to receive the response well, it's a red flag about the company culture they maintain, where time is not valued. I'd think twice then before making progress on associating with them.






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    That is a bit aggressive I feel.

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    If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

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    @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

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    1 hour ago






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    I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

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    @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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The more time that passes, the worse this looks.



The ideal case would have been to respond immediately to their test request:




I am very sorry, but I was not aware from my previous contact with your
company that I would be required to take a test today. Due to my work
situation (give more details if there are urgent deadlines, etc...), I
will not be able to take a test until the weekend. I would be glad to
take a different test if you feel that that would be more fair to the
other candidates.




If you have had no contact with the company since receiving their test request, then the above is still a valid response. You could basically pretend that you did not see their email.



If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation. Anything you say at this point will come across as an excuse. If you are an average candidate for them, then I think your chances of getting the job have dropped to 0. If you are an above average candidate, then they might grant you forgiveness.



FWIW: I am in charge of hiring for several positions in our company. We also give a prescreening test to candidates (although we typically give 1 week to complete). I am glad to delay the test if a candidate tells me that they are busy over the next few days. However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, then I simply can't be bothered to give you a job. There are deadlines in industry. If we agree on a reasonable deadline, and you do not meet that deadline, then what does it say about how you will perform in my company.






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    I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

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  • If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

    – bremen_matt
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  • However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

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  • We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

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Off course it is common courtesy for them to ask if you could spare some time for the exercise especially that it was not indicated you've have to do one earlier in the process. It would raise some eyebrows with me and definitely count as a negative when evaluating options (for the reasons others have mentioned).



Looking past that though, it depends on how much you want the job. I've had this happen to me a couple of times and I replied right away indicating I'd not be able to make the deadline but offered a new time instead.



If the task is vague or you aren't sure how long you'll need - do ask if there's a timeframe in which they expect the exercise to be done (reasoning below).




Hi so-and-so,



Thank you for the exercise. I look forward to the challenge. I reckon I will need 3 hours to complete it however I am caught up with some blah-blah-blah today and will not find good time in which to work on it. Do you mind if I completed it and came back to you on Friday instead?



I notice there isn't a mention of how much time should be spent on the exercise - please could you give me an indication?




This is kind of important to do and in itself shows them how you can manage expectations amongst a busy schedule, be open in your communications, etc. Usually they understand and appreciate the pragmatism. If they find this unacceptable, then yes you really ought to reconsider working for them.



For the reason behind deadlines like this - It's often the case with homework exercises they don't want you to spend more than an allocated time and hence the short notice. i.e. If you took the weekend to complete what should be a 2 hour exercise, sure you're going to come up with something quite polished that does not accurately represent your skills and abilities - especially against other candidates do only take 2 hours and Hiring managers need to make decisions with this constraint as a factor. This is even more reason to indicate upfront that you need a block of time. Here I would make use of Github or similar that shows the timeline of all the your work on the exercise (as well as how you branch, commit, test, refactor, etc, etc). You could point this out to the interviewer.



It sounds as though you've missed the deadline now so perhaps do something similar in retrospect?




I really do apologize. I thought I would have had some quality time to focus on the exercise but due to unforeseen blah-blah-blah I found I couldn't complete it on time. I've included a link to the github project showing the approach and how much time I took, etc - I hope this suffices in this form. I look forward to your feedback.







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    Yes, it was unexpected and should have happened in a better way.



    However, you did one mistake here, you should have immediately responded to them declining to take the test (exactly the reasons what you've said in the question). However, if you still did not communicate anything after receiving the email, it's still not too late, take action as soon as possible.



    Reply to them in a way which:



    • Lists the previous incidents happened (uninformed cancellation, no heads up etc)

    • Still shows a positive attitude to resolve the issue and get going forward

    • Sounding confident and not desperate for the job.

    Something along the lines of:




    "Hello, I'm sorry to inform that I could not complete the coding test you sent me.



    However, I'd like to also inform that the previous interview which was scheduled did not take place, without any prior information. The follow up test, also showed up without any prior notice, thereby I could not take proper actions.



    I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted and the timings to be confirmed well in advance this time so that I can plan my work accordingly. Please let me know when is a good time to discuss about the availability and put something in the calendar so it works smoothly for all of us.



    Regards, Somya"




    In case they comply, you can go ahead. However, if they do not seem to receive the response well, it's a red flag about the company culture they maintain, where time is not valued. I'd think twice then before making progress on associating with them.






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      That is a bit aggressive I feel.

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      If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

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      @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      1 hour ago






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      I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

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      @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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    Yes, it was unexpected and should have happened in a better way.



    However, you did one mistake here, you should have immediately responded to them declining to take the test (exactly the reasons what you've said in the question). However, if you still did not communicate anything after receiving the email, it's still not too late, take action as soon as possible.



    Reply to them in a way which:



    • Lists the previous incidents happened (uninformed cancellation, no heads up etc)

    • Still shows a positive attitude to resolve the issue and get going forward

    • Sounding confident and not desperate for the job.

    Something along the lines of:




    "Hello, I'm sorry to inform that I could not complete the coding test you sent me.



    However, I'd like to also inform that the previous interview which was scheduled did not take place, without any prior information. The follow up test, also showed up without any prior notice, thereby I could not take proper actions.



    I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted and the timings to be confirmed well in advance this time so that I can plan my work accordingly. Please let me know when is a good time to discuss about the availability and put something in the calendar so it works smoothly for all of us.



    Regards, Somya"




    In case they comply, you can go ahead. However, if they do not seem to receive the response well, it's a red flag about the company culture they maintain, where time is not valued. I'd think twice then before making progress on associating with them.






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      That is a bit aggressive I feel.

      – bremen_matt
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      If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

      – bremen_matt
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      @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      1 hour ago






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      I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

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      @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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    Yes, it was unexpected and should have happened in a better way.



    However, you did one mistake here, you should have immediately responded to them declining to take the test (exactly the reasons what you've said in the question). However, if you still did not communicate anything after receiving the email, it's still not too late, take action as soon as possible.



    Reply to them in a way which:



    • Lists the previous incidents happened (uninformed cancellation, no heads up etc)

    • Still shows a positive attitude to resolve the issue and get going forward

    • Sounding confident and not desperate for the job.

    Something along the lines of:




    "Hello, I'm sorry to inform that I could not complete the coding test you sent me.



    However, I'd like to also inform that the previous interview which was scheduled did not take place, without any prior information. The follow up test, also showed up without any prior notice, thereby I could not take proper actions.



    I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted and the timings to be confirmed well in advance this time so that I can plan my work accordingly. Please let me know when is a good time to discuss about the availability and put something in the calendar so it works smoothly for all of us.



    Regards, Somya"




    In case they comply, you can go ahead. However, if they do not seem to receive the response well, it's a red flag about the company culture they maintain, where time is not valued. I'd think twice then before making progress on associating with them.






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    Yes, it was unexpected and should have happened in a better way.



    However, you did one mistake here, you should have immediately responded to them declining to take the test (exactly the reasons what you've said in the question). However, if you still did not communicate anything after receiving the email, it's still not too late, take action as soon as possible.



    Reply to them in a way which:



    • Lists the previous incidents happened (uninformed cancellation, no heads up etc)

    • Still shows a positive attitude to resolve the issue and get going forward

    • Sounding confident and not desperate for the job.

    Something along the lines of:




    "Hello, I'm sorry to inform that I could not complete the coding test you sent me.



    However, I'd like to also inform that the previous interview which was scheduled did not take place, without any prior information. The follow up test, also showed up without any prior notice, thereby I could not take proper actions.



    I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted and the timings to be confirmed well in advance this time so that I can plan my work accordingly. Please let me know when is a good time to discuss about the availability and put something in the calendar so it works smoothly for all of us.



    Regards, Somya"




    In case they comply, you can go ahead. However, if they do not seem to receive the response well, it's a red flag about the company culture they maintain, where time is not valued. I'd think twice then before making progress on associating with them.







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      That is a bit aggressive I feel.

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      If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

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      @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

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      I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

      – David K
      1 hour ago






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      @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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      That is a bit aggressive I feel.

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      If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

      – bremen_matt
      1 hour ago






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      @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      1 hour ago






    • 6





      I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

      – David K
      1 hour ago






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      @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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    That is a bit aggressive I feel.

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    That is a bit aggressive I feel.

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    If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

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    If you wrote that to me, you would be immediately removed from the candidate list.

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    @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    1 hour ago





    @bremen_matt Thanks, that would save me some time, which I value, unlike someone who feels it's OK to waste the time of someone else and all applicants have enough spare time to attend ad-hoc meeting , tests whatever.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    1 hour ago




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    I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

    – David K
    1 hour ago





    I think a response like this is the way to go, but I think some of the wording in the example could be softened up a bit. For example, instead of "I am expecting to have the interview / test re-conducted...", I would say "If you are willing to re-conduct the interview and test, please let me know in advance ...." Sometimes the niceties go a long way in setting the tone of the conversation.

    – David K
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    @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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    @SouravGhosh - it comes off too aggressive, old chum !

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    The more time that passes, the worse this looks.



    The ideal case would have been to respond immediately to their test request:




    I am very sorry, but I was not aware from my previous contact with your
    company that I would be required to take a test today. Due to my work
    situation (give more details if there are urgent deadlines, etc...), I
    will not be able to take a test until the weekend. I would be glad to
    take a different test if you feel that that would be more fair to the
    other candidates.




    If you have had no contact with the company since receiving their test request, then the above is still a valid response. You could basically pretend that you did not see their email.



    If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation. Anything you say at this point will come across as an excuse. If you are an average candidate for them, then I think your chances of getting the job have dropped to 0. If you are an above average candidate, then they might grant you forgiveness.



    FWIW: I am in charge of hiring for several positions in our company. We also give a prescreening test to candidates (although we typically give 1 week to complete). I am glad to delay the test if a candidate tells me that they are busy over the next few days. However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, then I simply can't be bothered to give you a job. There are deadlines in industry. If we agree on a reasonable deadline, and you do not meet that deadline, then what does it say about how you will perform in my company.






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      I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      46 mins ago











    • If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

      – bremen_matt
      31 mins ago











    • However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      20 mins ago











    • We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

      – bremen_matt
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    The more time that passes, the worse this looks.



    The ideal case would have been to respond immediately to their test request:




    I am very sorry, but I was not aware from my previous contact with your
    company that I would be required to take a test today. Due to my work
    situation (give more details if there are urgent deadlines, etc...), I
    will not be able to take a test until the weekend. I would be glad to
    take a different test if you feel that that would be more fair to the
    other candidates.




    If you have had no contact with the company since receiving their test request, then the above is still a valid response. You could basically pretend that you did not see their email.



    If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation. Anything you say at this point will come across as an excuse. If you are an average candidate for them, then I think your chances of getting the job have dropped to 0. If you are an above average candidate, then they might grant you forgiveness.



    FWIW: I am in charge of hiring for several positions in our company. We also give a prescreening test to candidates (although we typically give 1 week to complete). I am glad to delay the test if a candidate tells me that they are busy over the next few days. However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, then I simply can't be bothered to give you a job. There are deadlines in industry. If we agree on a reasonable deadline, and you do not meet that deadline, then what does it say about how you will perform in my company.






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    • 2





      I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      46 mins ago











    • If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

      – bremen_matt
      31 mins ago











    • However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      20 mins ago











    • We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

      – bremen_matt
      4 mins ago













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    9








    9







    The more time that passes, the worse this looks.



    The ideal case would have been to respond immediately to their test request:




    I am very sorry, but I was not aware from my previous contact with your
    company that I would be required to take a test today. Due to my work
    situation (give more details if there are urgent deadlines, etc...), I
    will not be able to take a test until the weekend. I would be glad to
    take a different test if you feel that that would be more fair to the
    other candidates.




    If you have had no contact with the company since receiving their test request, then the above is still a valid response. You could basically pretend that you did not see their email.



    If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation. Anything you say at this point will come across as an excuse. If you are an average candidate for them, then I think your chances of getting the job have dropped to 0. If you are an above average candidate, then they might grant you forgiveness.



    FWIW: I am in charge of hiring for several positions in our company. We also give a prescreening test to candidates (although we typically give 1 week to complete). I am glad to delay the test if a candidate tells me that they are busy over the next few days. However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, then I simply can't be bothered to give you a job. There are deadlines in industry. If we agree on a reasonable deadline, and you do not meet that deadline, then what does it say about how you will perform in my company.






    share|improve this answer













    The more time that passes, the worse this looks.



    The ideal case would have been to respond immediately to their test request:




    I am very sorry, but I was not aware from my previous contact with your
    company that I would be required to take a test today. Due to my work
    situation (give more details if there are urgent deadlines, etc...), I
    will not be able to take a test until the weekend. I would be glad to
    take a different test if you feel that that would be more fair to the
    other candidates.




    If you have had no contact with the company since receiving their test request, then the above is still a valid response. You could basically pretend that you did not see their email.



    If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation. Anything you say at this point will come across as an excuse. If you are an average candidate for them, then I think your chances of getting the job have dropped to 0. If you are an above average candidate, then they might grant you forgiveness.



    FWIW: I am in charge of hiring for several positions in our company. We also give a prescreening test to candidates (although we typically give 1 week to complete). I am glad to delay the test if a candidate tells me that they are busy over the next few days. However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, then I simply can't be bothered to give you a job. There are deadlines in industry. If we agree on a reasonable deadline, and you do not meet that deadline, then what does it say about how you will perform in my company.







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      I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      46 mins ago











    • If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

      – bremen_matt
      31 mins ago











    • However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      20 mins ago











    • We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

      – bremen_matt
      4 mins ago












    • 2





      I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      46 mins ago











    • If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

      – bremen_matt
      31 mins ago











    • However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

      – Sourav Ghosh
      20 mins ago











    • We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

      – bremen_matt
      4 mins ago







    2




    2





    I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    46 mins ago





    I agree very much with the first sentence, however, i don't agree with the "If you acknowledged that you received the test request, and simply did not do it, then you are in a very bad situation.". All has their times allocated, no one is up for a on the spot coding test without a heads up.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    46 mins ago













    If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

    – bremen_matt
    31 mins ago





    If he did not indicate that it would be a problem upon receiving the test, and instead said something like, "Thanks, I received the test." Then the implicit assumption is that it will not be a problem for him. I agree that the company SHOULD have given him a heads up. They bear some of the fault for this siutation. But by not indicating that taking the test will be an issue, the candidate is complicit in everything that transpires after that point.

    – bremen_matt
    31 mins ago













    However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    20 mins ago





    However, if we agree on a timeline for the test, and you simply can't be bothered to do it, - not very relevant here, is not it? This indicates there has been some communication and agreed upon time or timeline, not some out of blue request.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    20 mins ago













    We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

    – bremen_matt
    4 mins ago





    We are all arguing about the appropriate response. I think this all hinges on whether the candidate acknowledged that he received the test, and indicated whether or not he would complete it. If he indicated that he would complete the test, but did not, then he is in a very bad position. If he never indicated that he received the test, then the company has no reason to believe that he received the email in the first place.

    – bremen_matt
    4 mins ago











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    Off course it is common courtesy for them to ask if you could spare some time for the exercise especially that it was not indicated you've have to do one earlier in the process. It would raise some eyebrows with me and definitely count as a negative when evaluating options (for the reasons others have mentioned).



    Looking past that though, it depends on how much you want the job. I've had this happen to me a couple of times and I replied right away indicating I'd not be able to make the deadline but offered a new time instead.



    If the task is vague or you aren't sure how long you'll need - do ask if there's a timeframe in which they expect the exercise to be done (reasoning below).




    Hi so-and-so,



    Thank you for the exercise. I look forward to the challenge. I reckon I will need 3 hours to complete it however I am caught up with some blah-blah-blah today and will not find good time in which to work on it. Do you mind if I completed it and came back to you on Friday instead?



    I notice there isn't a mention of how much time should be spent on the exercise - please could you give me an indication?




    This is kind of important to do and in itself shows them how you can manage expectations amongst a busy schedule, be open in your communications, etc. Usually they understand and appreciate the pragmatism. If they find this unacceptable, then yes you really ought to reconsider working for them.



    For the reason behind deadlines like this - It's often the case with homework exercises they don't want you to spend more than an allocated time and hence the short notice. i.e. If you took the weekend to complete what should be a 2 hour exercise, sure you're going to come up with something quite polished that does not accurately represent your skills and abilities - especially against other candidates do only take 2 hours and Hiring managers need to make decisions with this constraint as a factor. This is even more reason to indicate upfront that you need a block of time. Here I would make use of Github or similar that shows the timeline of all the your work on the exercise (as well as how you branch, commit, test, refactor, etc, etc). You could point this out to the interviewer.



    It sounds as though you've missed the deadline now so perhaps do something similar in retrospect?




    I really do apologize. I thought I would have had some quality time to focus on the exercise but due to unforeseen blah-blah-blah I found I couldn't complete it on time. I've included a link to the github project showing the approach and how much time I took, etc - I hope this suffices in this form. I look forward to your feedback.







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      Off course it is common courtesy for them to ask if you could spare some time for the exercise especially that it was not indicated you've have to do one earlier in the process. It would raise some eyebrows with me and definitely count as a negative when evaluating options (for the reasons others have mentioned).



      Looking past that though, it depends on how much you want the job. I've had this happen to me a couple of times and I replied right away indicating I'd not be able to make the deadline but offered a new time instead.



      If the task is vague or you aren't sure how long you'll need - do ask if there's a timeframe in which they expect the exercise to be done (reasoning below).




      Hi so-and-so,



      Thank you for the exercise. I look forward to the challenge. I reckon I will need 3 hours to complete it however I am caught up with some blah-blah-blah today and will not find good time in which to work on it. Do you mind if I completed it and came back to you on Friday instead?



      I notice there isn't a mention of how much time should be spent on the exercise - please could you give me an indication?




      This is kind of important to do and in itself shows them how you can manage expectations amongst a busy schedule, be open in your communications, etc. Usually they understand and appreciate the pragmatism. If they find this unacceptable, then yes you really ought to reconsider working for them.



      For the reason behind deadlines like this - It's often the case with homework exercises they don't want you to spend more than an allocated time and hence the short notice. i.e. If you took the weekend to complete what should be a 2 hour exercise, sure you're going to come up with something quite polished that does not accurately represent your skills and abilities - especially against other candidates do only take 2 hours and Hiring managers need to make decisions with this constraint as a factor. This is even more reason to indicate upfront that you need a block of time. Here I would make use of Github or similar that shows the timeline of all the your work on the exercise (as well as how you branch, commit, test, refactor, etc, etc). You could point this out to the interviewer.



      It sounds as though you've missed the deadline now so perhaps do something similar in retrospect?




      I really do apologize. I thought I would have had some quality time to focus on the exercise but due to unforeseen blah-blah-blah I found I couldn't complete it on time. I've included a link to the github project showing the approach and how much time I took, etc - I hope this suffices in this form. I look forward to your feedback.







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        Off course it is common courtesy for them to ask if you could spare some time for the exercise especially that it was not indicated you've have to do one earlier in the process. It would raise some eyebrows with me and definitely count as a negative when evaluating options (for the reasons others have mentioned).



        Looking past that though, it depends on how much you want the job. I've had this happen to me a couple of times and I replied right away indicating I'd not be able to make the deadline but offered a new time instead.



        If the task is vague or you aren't sure how long you'll need - do ask if there's a timeframe in which they expect the exercise to be done (reasoning below).




        Hi so-and-so,



        Thank you for the exercise. I look forward to the challenge. I reckon I will need 3 hours to complete it however I am caught up with some blah-blah-blah today and will not find good time in which to work on it. Do you mind if I completed it and came back to you on Friday instead?



        I notice there isn't a mention of how much time should be spent on the exercise - please could you give me an indication?




        This is kind of important to do and in itself shows them how you can manage expectations amongst a busy schedule, be open in your communications, etc. Usually they understand and appreciate the pragmatism. If they find this unacceptable, then yes you really ought to reconsider working for them.



        For the reason behind deadlines like this - It's often the case with homework exercises they don't want you to spend more than an allocated time and hence the short notice. i.e. If you took the weekend to complete what should be a 2 hour exercise, sure you're going to come up with something quite polished that does not accurately represent your skills and abilities - especially against other candidates do only take 2 hours and Hiring managers need to make decisions with this constraint as a factor. This is even more reason to indicate upfront that you need a block of time. Here I would make use of Github or similar that shows the timeline of all the your work on the exercise (as well as how you branch, commit, test, refactor, etc, etc). You could point this out to the interviewer.



        It sounds as though you've missed the deadline now so perhaps do something similar in retrospect?




        I really do apologize. I thought I would have had some quality time to focus on the exercise but due to unforeseen blah-blah-blah I found I couldn't complete it on time. I've included a link to the github project showing the approach and how much time I took, etc - I hope this suffices in this form. I look forward to your feedback.







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        Off course it is common courtesy for them to ask if you could spare some time for the exercise especially that it was not indicated you've have to do one earlier in the process. It would raise some eyebrows with me and definitely count as a negative when evaluating options (for the reasons others have mentioned).



        Looking past that though, it depends on how much you want the job. I've had this happen to me a couple of times and I replied right away indicating I'd not be able to make the deadline but offered a new time instead.



        If the task is vague or you aren't sure how long you'll need - do ask if there's a timeframe in which they expect the exercise to be done (reasoning below).




        Hi so-and-so,



        Thank you for the exercise. I look forward to the challenge. I reckon I will need 3 hours to complete it however I am caught up with some blah-blah-blah today and will not find good time in which to work on it. Do you mind if I completed it and came back to you on Friday instead?



        I notice there isn't a mention of how much time should be spent on the exercise - please could you give me an indication?




        This is kind of important to do and in itself shows them how you can manage expectations amongst a busy schedule, be open in your communications, etc. Usually they understand and appreciate the pragmatism. If they find this unacceptable, then yes you really ought to reconsider working for them.



        For the reason behind deadlines like this - It's often the case with homework exercises they don't want you to spend more than an allocated time and hence the short notice. i.e. If you took the weekend to complete what should be a 2 hour exercise, sure you're going to come up with something quite polished that does not accurately represent your skills and abilities - especially against other candidates do only take 2 hours and Hiring managers need to make decisions with this constraint as a factor. This is even more reason to indicate upfront that you need a block of time. Here I would make use of Github or similar that shows the timeline of all the your work on the exercise (as well as how you branch, commit, test, refactor, etc, etc). You could point this out to the interviewer.



        It sounds as though you've missed the deadline now so perhaps do something similar in retrospect?




        I really do apologize. I thought I would have had some quality time to focus on the exercise but due to unforeseen blah-blah-blah I found I couldn't complete it on time. I've included a link to the github project showing the approach and how much time I took, etc - I hope this suffices in this form. I look forward to your feedback.








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