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I've tought myself to read the Greek alphabet, and it is still confusing to read and identify "h" sound in the ancient Greek. For example, Athena talks about Circe that she has "αἱμύλιοι λόγοι" in Odyssey(1, 56). It seems 'aimylioi logoi' to me, because α has no diacritical mark on, but I have seen that is read as 'haimylioi logoi' elsewhere. Which one is right, and why? Is it to do with the Homeric Greek, or does ἱ after α affect the pronunciation? Thank you!






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    I've tought myself to read the Greek alphabet, and it is still confusing to read and identify "h" sound in the ancient Greek. For example, Athena talks about Circe that she has "αἱμύλιοι λόγοι" in Odyssey(1, 56). It seems 'aimylioi logoi' to me, because α has no diacritical mark on, but I have seen that is read as 'haimylioi logoi' elsewhere. Which one is right, and why? Is it to do with the Homeric Greek, or does ἱ after α affect the pronunciation? Thank you!






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      I've tought myself to read the Greek alphabet, and it is still confusing to read and identify "h" sound in the ancient Greek. For example, Athena talks about Circe that she has "αἱμύλιοι λόγοι" in Odyssey(1, 56). It seems 'aimylioi logoi' to me, because α has no diacritical mark on, but I have seen that is read as 'haimylioi logoi' elsewhere. Which one is right, and why? Is it to do with the Homeric Greek, or does ἱ after α affect the pronunciation? Thank you!






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      I've tought myself to read the Greek alphabet, and it is still confusing to read and identify "h" sound in the ancient Greek. For example, Athena talks about Circe that she has "αἱμύλιοι λόγοι" in Odyssey(1, 56). It seems 'aimylioi logoi' to me, because α has no diacritical mark on, but I have seen that is read as 'haimylioi logoi' elsewhere. Which one is right, and why? Is it to do with the Homeric Greek, or does ἱ after α affect the pronunciation? Thank you!






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          All words beginning with a vowel are marked with a 'breathing.' This looks like a single inverted comma. When the breathing is 'rough' (aspirate) it is c shaped < ;when the breathing is 'smooth' the inverted comma is reversed > . In the case of αἱμύλιοι the aspirate, the rough breathing, has been placed over the second letter of the vowel pair αἱ.



          The other diacritical marks are tonal accents:

          αἱμύλιοι is proparoxytone;

          λόγοι is paroxytone.
          perispomenon and properispomenon are only found on long vowels and diphthongs, and can be, barely, heard as a rising-falling tone.






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            If a word begins with a diphthong, the breathing sign is written over the second vowel letter. "Haimylioi" is correct.






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              Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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            All words beginning with a vowel are marked with a 'breathing.' This looks like a single inverted comma. When the breathing is 'rough' (aspirate) it is c shaped < ;when the breathing is 'smooth' the inverted comma is reversed > . In the case of αἱμύλιοι the aspirate, the rough breathing, has been placed over the second letter of the vowel pair αἱ.



            The other diacritical marks are tonal accents:

            αἱμύλιοι is proparoxytone;

            λόγοι is paroxytone.
            perispomenon and properispomenon are only found on long vowels and diphthongs, and can be, barely, heard as a rising-falling tone.






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              All words beginning with a vowel are marked with a 'breathing.' This looks like a single inverted comma. When the breathing is 'rough' (aspirate) it is c shaped < ;when the breathing is 'smooth' the inverted comma is reversed > . In the case of αἱμύλιοι the aspirate, the rough breathing, has been placed over the second letter of the vowel pair αἱ.



              The other diacritical marks are tonal accents:

              αἱμύλιοι is proparoxytone;

              λόγοι is paroxytone.
              perispomenon and properispomenon are only found on long vowels and diphthongs, and can be, barely, heard as a rising-falling tone.






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                All words beginning with a vowel are marked with a 'breathing.' This looks like a single inverted comma. When the breathing is 'rough' (aspirate) it is c shaped < ;when the breathing is 'smooth' the inverted comma is reversed > . In the case of αἱμύλιοι the aspirate, the rough breathing, has been placed over the second letter of the vowel pair αἱ.



                The other diacritical marks are tonal accents:

                αἱμύλιοι is proparoxytone;

                λόγοι is paroxytone.
                perispomenon and properispomenon are only found on long vowels and diphthongs, and can be, barely, heard as a rising-falling tone.






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                All words beginning with a vowel are marked with a 'breathing.' This looks like a single inverted comma. When the breathing is 'rough' (aspirate) it is c shaped < ;when the breathing is 'smooth' the inverted comma is reversed > . In the case of αἱμύλιοι the aspirate, the rough breathing, has been placed over the second letter of the vowel pair αἱ.



                The other diacritical marks are tonal accents:

                αἱμύλιοι is proparoxytone;

                λόγοι is paroxytone.
                perispomenon and properispomenon are only found on long vowels and diphthongs, and can be, barely, heard as a rising-falling tone.







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                    If a word begins with a diphthong, the breathing sign is written over the second vowel letter. "Haimylioi" is correct.






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                      Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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                    If a word begins with a diphthong, the breathing sign is written over the second vowel letter. "Haimylioi" is correct.






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                      Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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                    If a word begins with a diphthong, the breathing sign is written over the second vowel letter. "Haimylioi" is correct.






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                      Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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                      Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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                    Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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                    Incidentally, this can be used to distinguish between diphthongs and vowels with iota adscriptum when dealing with capitals (where in modern typesetting, iota subscriptum is actually placed next to the capital (thus adscriptum, instead of under it.) Thus, in ᾿´Αιδι, we know it's pronounced as "adi", not as "aidi", because if the latter were correct, it would have to be written as Αἴδι.

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