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Does HR tell a hiring manager about salary negotiations?



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InHow do I negotiate a salary via snail mail?Negotiating starting Salary, hiring manager is close-business relationshipNo more interviews - when to negotiate salary?Salary negotiations after verbal agreementbreaking salary negotiation deadlockAn employer has provided a written expression of interest which outlines salary and benefits but said that it is not a formal offer?Is it advisable to negotiate salary during job offer even after answering the salary expectation question?Negotiating Offers (Verbal Offers & General)I negotiated the base pay, but how can I do this better next time?Can I still negotiate a job offer if HR is stonewalling the department head?



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If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?



I'm worried that it colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, but not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.










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    I don't see why they wouldn't. Why is this something you're concerned about?

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  • It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.

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    8 hours ago






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    @chessofnerd That's true, but negotiating for a higher salary is an entirely normal thing to do. I'd be surprised if your relationship with your manager was affected in anything but a trivial (and therefore recoverable) way.

    – Jim Clay
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If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?



I'm worried that it colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, but not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.










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    I don't see why they wouldn't. Why is this something you're concerned about?

    – David K
    9 hours ago











  • Why does that matter?

    – Sourav Ghosh
    9 hours ago











  • It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.

    – chessofnerd
    8 hours ago






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    @chessofnerd That's true, but negotiating for a higher salary is an entirely normal thing to do. I'd be surprised if your relationship with your manager was affected in anything but a trivial (and therefore recoverable) way.

    – Jim Clay
    8 hours ago













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If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?



I'm worried that it colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, but not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.










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If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?



I'm worried that it colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, but not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.







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    I don't see why they wouldn't. Why is this something you're concerned about?

    – David K
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  • Why does that matter?

    – Sourav Ghosh
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  • It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.

    – chessofnerd
    8 hours ago






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    @chessofnerd That's true, but negotiating for a higher salary is an entirely normal thing to do. I'd be surprised if your relationship with your manager was affected in anything but a trivial (and therefore recoverable) way.

    – Jim Clay
    8 hours ago












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    I don't see why they wouldn't. Why is this something you're concerned about?

    – David K
    9 hours ago











  • Why does that matter?

    – Sourav Ghosh
    9 hours ago











  • It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.

    – chessofnerd
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @chessofnerd That's true, but negotiating for a higher salary is an entirely normal thing to do. I'd be surprised if your relationship with your manager was affected in anything but a trivial (and therefore recoverable) way.

    – Jim Clay
    8 hours ago







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2





I don't see why they wouldn't. Why is this something you're concerned about?

– David K
9 hours ago





I don't see why they wouldn't. Why is this something you're concerned about?

– David K
9 hours ago













Why does that matter?

– Sourav Ghosh
9 hours ago





Why does that matter?

– Sourav Ghosh
9 hours ago













It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.

– chessofnerd
8 hours ago





It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me."). Depending on what I'm negotiating for (salary in this case, but in other cases leave, benefits, etc.) it communicates work-life priorities. All subtle but important communicators that change my relationship with the manager before I even start.

– chessofnerd
8 hours ago




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2





@chessofnerd That's true, but negotiating for a higher salary is an entirely normal thing to do. I'd be surprised if your relationship with your manager was affected in anything but a trivial (and therefore recoverable) way.

– Jim Clay
8 hours ago





@chessofnerd That's true, but negotiating for a higher salary is an entirely normal thing to do. I'd be surprised if your relationship with your manager was affected in anything but a trivial (and therefore recoverable) way.

– Jim Clay
8 hours ago










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As answered, yes, you should assume the hiring manager is / will be aware.



In response to what you said in the comment:




It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me.").




Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money, and will not hold this against you. Additionally, everything that could be interpreted negatively can also be interpreted positively. For example, asking for more money can demonstrate that you have confidence in your own value.



When you ask for raises after you've accepted the job, that will also start with your manager. Are you going to hold back then so your manager doesn't think you're greedy? If you aren't willing to advocate for pay raises in your career, then you will end up underpaid. Lastly, I've never had a manager hold looking for a raise against me. Work is a business transaction and most people understand that. As long as you aren't jumping jobs every year and expecting a huge raise each time you'll probably be fine.






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Yes this is normal and you want that to improve your chances.



HR normally has little latitude in negotiating salaries on their own. They are not normally qualified to evaluate whether a particular candidate is worth more than was offered. The hiring manager should be aware of what you are worth to fill the role and whether or not they are willing to go higher. If the company allows it at all, it is the hiring manager who is quite likely the person who can approve or initiate a higher salary offer.






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  • +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

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Yes this is a normal hiring procedure.






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Yes, it is normal for HR to communicate negotiations with the manager you will be reporting to.



One thing to consider is that the manager has a budget so they need to be aware of things that would change their budget.






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    Your idea what your manager thinks about your salary is totally upside down. If your salary is low, your manager will think "that person can't be as good as I thought, or they would have negotiated a higher salary. If your salary is high, your manager will think "HR must have seen that this person is worth more money", or "this person must have been good enough to get high offers elsewhere, or HR wouldn't be paying that much".






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      As answered, yes, you should assume the hiring manager is / will be aware.



      In response to what you said in the comment:




      It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me.").




      Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money, and will not hold this against you. Additionally, everything that could be interpreted negatively can also be interpreted positively. For example, asking for more money can demonstrate that you have confidence in your own value.



      When you ask for raises after you've accepted the job, that will also start with your manager. Are you going to hold back then so your manager doesn't think you're greedy? If you aren't willing to advocate for pay raises in your career, then you will end up underpaid. Lastly, I've never had a manager hold looking for a raise against me. Work is a business transaction and most people understand that. As long as you aren't jumping jobs every year and expecting a huge raise each time you'll probably be fine.






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        +1 for "Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money". You're not going to take the job for free, so...

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      As answered, yes, you should assume the hiring manager is / will be aware.



      In response to what you said in the comment:




      It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me.").




      Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money, and will not hold this against you. Additionally, everything that could be interpreted negatively can also be interpreted positively. For example, asking for more money can demonstrate that you have confidence in your own value.



      When you ask for raises after you've accepted the job, that will also start with your manager. Are you going to hold back then so your manager doesn't think you're greedy? If you aren't willing to advocate for pay raises in your career, then you will end up underpaid. Lastly, I've never had a manager hold looking for a raise against me. Work is a business transaction and most people understand that. As long as you aren't jumping jobs every year and expecting a huge raise each time you'll probably be fine.






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        +1 for "Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money". You're not going to take the job for free, so...

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      As answered, yes, you should assume the hiring manager is / will be aware.



      In response to what you said in the comment:




      It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me.").




      Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money, and will not hold this against you. Additionally, everything that could be interpreted negatively can also be interpreted positively. For example, asking for more money can demonstrate that you have confidence in your own value.



      When you ask for raises after you've accepted the job, that will also start with your manager. Are you going to hold back then so your manager doesn't think you're greedy? If you aren't willing to advocate for pay raises in your career, then you will end up underpaid. Lastly, I've never had a manager hold looking for a raise against me. Work is a business transaction and most people understand that. As long as you aren't jumping jobs every year and expecting a huge raise each time you'll probably be fine.






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      As answered, yes, you should assume the hiring manager is / will be aware.



      In response to what you said in the comment:




      It colors my relationship with the hiring manager if I accept the offer. It's an indicator of how much I want the job ("I'll work for you, bit not for what you wanted to give me.").




      Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money, and will not hold this against you. Additionally, everything that could be interpreted negatively can also be interpreted positively. For example, asking for more money can demonstrate that you have confidence in your own value.



      When you ask for raises after you've accepted the job, that will also start with your manager. Are you going to hold back then so your manager doesn't think you're greedy? If you aren't willing to advocate for pay raises in your career, then you will end up underpaid. Lastly, I've never had a manager hold looking for a raise against me. Work is a business transaction and most people understand that. As long as you aren't jumping jobs every year and expecting a huge raise each time you'll probably be fine.







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        +1 for "Most managers understand that you are accepting a job in a large part because you want or need money". You're not going to take the job for free, so...

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      Yes this is normal and you want that to improve your chances.



      HR normally has little latitude in negotiating salaries on their own. They are not normally qualified to evaluate whether a particular candidate is worth more than was offered. The hiring manager should be aware of what you are worth to fill the role and whether or not they are willing to go higher. If the company allows it at all, it is the hiring manager who is quite likely the person who can approve or initiate a higher salary offer.






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      • +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

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      Yes this is normal and you want that to improve your chances.



      HR normally has little latitude in negotiating salaries on their own. They are not normally qualified to evaluate whether a particular candidate is worth more than was offered. The hiring manager should be aware of what you are worth to fill the role and whether or not they are willing to go higher. If the company allows it at all, it is the hiring manager who is quite likely the person who can approve or initiate a higher salary offer.






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      • +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

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      Yes this is normal and you want that to improve your chances.



      HR normally has little latitude in negotiating salaries on their own. They are not normally qualified to evaluate whether a particular candidate is worth more than was offered. The hiring manager should be aware of what you are worth to fill the role and whether or not they are willing to go higher. If the company allows it at all, it is the hiring manager who is quite likely the person who can approve or initiate a higher salary offer.






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      Yes this is normal and you want that to improve your chances.



      HR normally has little latitude in negotiating salaries on their own. They are not normally qualified to evaluate whether a particular candidate is worth more than was offered. The hiring manager should be aware of what you are worth to fill the role and whether or not they are willing to go higher. If the company allows it at all, it is the hiring manager who is quite likely the person who can approve or initiate a higher salary offer.







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      • +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

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      • +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

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      +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

      – aaaaaa
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      +1 this. Hiring manager is the only person who knows "how much you are worth" and what will constitutes your job. I am surprised OP is discussing salary with HR at all

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      If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?




      Yes this is a normal hiring procedure.






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      • this answer seems kinda terse, and doesn't add much to the discussion (even though you posted before other answerers)

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      If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?




      Yes this is a normal hiring procedure.






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      If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?




      Yes this is a normal hiring procedure.






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      If I was to negotiate salary for a job offer with HR, is it customary for HR to communicate this to the hiring manager?




      Yes this is a normal hiring procedure.







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      this answer seems kinda terse, and doesn't add much to the discussion (even though you posted before other answerers)

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      Yes, it is normal for HR to communicate negotiations with the manager you will be reporting to.



      One thing to consider is that the manager has a budget so they need to be aware of things that would change their budget.






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        Yes, it is normal for HR to communicate negotiations with the manager you will be reporting to.



        One thing to consider is that the manager has a budget so they need to be aware of things that would change their budget.






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          Yes, it is normal for HR to communicate negotiations with the manager you will be reporting to.



          One thing to consider is that the manager has a budget so they need to be aware of things that would change their budget.






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          Yes, it is normal for HR to communicate negotiations with the manager you will be reporting to.



          One thing to consider is that the manager has a budget so they need to be aware of things that would change their budget.







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              Your idea what your manager thinks about your salary is totally upside down. If your salary is low, your manager will think "that person can't be as good as I thought, or they would have negotiated a higher salary. If your salary is high, your manager will think "HR must have seen that this person is worth more money", or "this person must have been good enough to get high offers elsewhere, or HR wouldn't be paying that much".






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                Your idea what your manager thinks about your salary is totally upside down. If your salary is low, your manager will think "that person can't be as good as I thought, or they would have negotiated a higher salary. If your salary is high, your manager will think "HR must have seen that this person is worth more money", or "this person must have been good enough to get high offers elsewhere, or HR wouldn't be paying that much".






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                  Your idea what your manager thinks about your salary is totally upside down. If your salary is low, your manager will think "that person can't be as good as I thought, or they would have negotiated a higher salary. If your salary is high, your manager will think "HR must have seen that this person is worth more money", or "this person must have been good enough to get high offers elsewhere, or HR wouldn't be paying that much".






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                  Your idea what your manager thinks about your salary is totally upside down. If your salary is low, your manager will think "that person can't be as good as I thought, or they would have negotiated a higher salary. If your salary is high, your manager will think "HR must have seen that this person is worth more money", or "this person must have been good enough to get high offers elsewhere, or HR wouldn't be paying that much".







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