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What is the light source in the black hole images?
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InIf nothing travels at the speed of light, except light, how can a black hole also pull light into itself?Does gravitational lensing cause a black-hole to be the main 'source' of light in a given area?What is a low mass Black Hole?Luminosity of black hole accretion discCan matter fly directly into a black hole and avoid the accretion disc?what is the dimension of Black Hole?Speed of light in a black holeHas a “white hole” theory been advanced to explain anomalous star formation in Sagittarius A?What defines the plane of an accretion disk around a black hole?What is the exact meaning of vicinity of Black hole or a disk? the same as inside?
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What is the light source in the black hole images?
I've searched the site before asking, as well as tried to google it. But perhaps the answer is buried due to the recent news.
My understanding, is that the ring in the images is an illuminated accretion disc.
What I could not find explained is the light source, and by extension, why is a bright accretion disc – which is round by definition – a proof for light bending? (I'm not disputing the fact.)
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What is the light source in the black hole images?
I've searched the site before asking, as well as tried to google it. But perhaps the answer is buried due to the recent news.
My understanding, is that the ring in the images is an illuminated accretion disc.
What I could not find explained is the light source, and by extension, why is a bright accretion disc – which is round by definition – a proof for light bending? (I'm not disputing the fact.)
black-hole accretion-discs
asked 9 hours ago
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I don't know if this helps, but from what I read, the people who worked on this decided themselves what color it would be in the picture.
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What is the light source in the black hole images?
I've searched the site before asking, as well as tried to google it. But perhaps the answer is buried due to the recent news.
My understanding, is that the ring in the images is an illuminated accretion disc.
What I could not find explained is the light source, and by extension, why is a bright accretion disc – which is round by definition – a proof for light bending? (I'm not disputing the fact.)
black-hole accretion-discs
asked 9 hours ago
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What is the light source in the black hole images?
I've searched the site before asking, as well as tried to google it. But perhaps the answer is buried due to the recent news.
My understanding, is that the ring in the images is an illuminated accretion disc.
What I could not find explained is the light source, and by extension, why is a bright accretion disc – which is round by definition – a proof for light bending? (I'm not disputing the fact.)
black-hole accretion-discs
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I don't know if this helps, but from what I read, the people who worked on this decided themselves what color it would be in the picture.
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I don't know if this helps, but from what I read, the people who worked on this decided themselves what color it would be in the picture.
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– Shule
4 hours ago
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I don't know if this helps, but from what I read, the people who worked on this decided themselves what color it would be in the picture.
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– Shule
4 hours ago
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I don't know if this helps, but from what I read, the people who worked on this decided themselves what color it would be in the picture.
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The radiation being detected in this case is mostly synchroton radiation, caused by energetic electrons spiralling around magnetic field line, rather than thermal radiation, but it comes from the same place (the disk). The actual evidence for light bending is, I believe the dark area in the middle, which is several times larger than the actual event horizon and is caused because the light that would have been coming to us from that direction has been bent away.
answered 6 hours ago
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Friction and turbulence from the material orbiting the black hole causes the accretion disk to heat up and emit light. The inner parts of the accretion disk get the hottest and tend to emit at the shortest wavelengths (X-rays normally) with longer wavelength (optical, IR, radio) normally coming from the material further out and above the disk which is photo-ionized by the X-rays. Depending on the density of the material in and around the accretion disk, the angle we are viewing it from and whether the accretion disk flares up at larger radii, will control what the accretion disk/AGN will appear as which part of the spectrum will be seen most strongly. There is some additional information on accretion disks and how they work at this EU Strong Gravity research site and a more technical review article in this conference proceedings.
answered 6 hours ago
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This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
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– user11801
6 hours ago
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I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
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– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
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As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
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The radiation being detected in this case is mostly synchroton radiation, caused by energetic electrons spiralling around magnetic field line, rather than thermal radiation, but it comes from the same place (the disk). The actual evidence for light bending is, I believe the dark area in the middle, which is several times larger than the actual event horizon and is caused because the light that would have been coming to us from that direction has been bent away.
answered 6 hours ago
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The radiation being detected in this case is mostly synchroton radiation, caused by energetic electrons spiralling around magnetic field line, rather than thermal radiation, but it comes from the same place (the disk). The actual evidence for light bending is, I believe the dark area in the middle, which is several times larger than the actual event horizon and is caused because the light that would have been coming to us from that direction has been bent away.
answered 6 hours ago
Steve LintonSteve Linton
2,5331319
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The radiation being detected in this case is mostly synchroton radiation, caused by energetic electrons spiralling around magnetic field line, rather than thermal radiation, but it comes from the same place (the disk). The actual evidence for light bending is, I believe the dark area in the middle, which is several times larger than the actual event horizon and is caused because the light that would have been coming to us from that direction has been bent away.
answered 6 hours ago
Steve LintonSteve Linton
2,5331319
$endgroup$
The radiation being detected in this case is mostly synchroton radiation, caused by energetic electrons spiralling around magnetic field line, rather than thermal radiation, but it comes from the same place (the disk). The actual evidence for light bending is, I believe the dark area in the middle, which is several times larger than the actual event horizon and is caused because the light that would have been coming to us from that direction has been bent away.
answered 6 hours ago
Steve LintonSteve Linton
2,5331319
answered 6 hours ago
Steve LintonSteve Linton
2,5331319
answered 6 hours ago
Steve LintonSteve Linton
2,5331319
answered 6 hours ago
Steve LintonSteve Linton
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Friction and turbulence from the material orbiting the black hole causes the accretion disk to heat up and emit light. The inner parts of the accretion disk get the hottest and tend to emit at the shortest wavelengths (X-rays normally) with longer wavelength (optical, IR, radio) normally coming from the material further out and above the disk which is photo-ionized by the X-rays. Depending on the density of the material in and around the accretion disk, the angle we are viewing it from and whether the accretion disk flares up at larger radii, will control what the accretion disk/AGN will appear as which part of the spectrum will be seen most strongly. There is some additional information on accretion disks and how they work at this EU Strong Gravity research site and a more technical review article in this conference proceedings.
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
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This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
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– user11801
6 hours ago
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I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
$endgroup$
– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
$endgroup$
– Mark Olson
5 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Friction and turbulence from the material orbiting the black hole causes the accretion disk to heat up and emit light. The inner parts of the accretion disk get the hottest and tend to emit at the shortest wavelengths (X-rays normally) with longer wavelength (optical, IR, radio) normally coming from the material further out and above the disk which is photo-ionized by the X-rays. Depending on the density of the material in and around the accretion disk, the angle we are viewing it from and whether the accretion disk flares up at larger radii, will control what the accretion disk/AGN will appear as which part of the spectrum will be seen most strongly. There is some additional information on accretion disks and how they work at this EU Strong Gravity research site and a more technical review article in this conference proceedings.
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
$endgroup$
– user11801
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
$endgroup$
– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
$endgroup$
– Mark Olson
5 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Friction and turbulence from the material orbiting the black hole causes the accretion disk to heat up and emit light. The inner parts of the accretion disk get the hottest and tend to emit at the shortest wavelengths (X-rays normally) with longer wavelength (optical, IR, radio) normally coming from the material further out and above the disk which is photo-ionized by the X-rays. Depending on the density of the material in and around the accretion disk, the angle we are viewing it from and whether the accretion disk flares up at larger radii, will control what the accretion disk/AGN will appear as which part of the spectrum will be seen most strongly. There is some additional information on accretion disks and how they work at this EU Strong Gravity research site and a more technical review article in this conference proceedings.
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
$endgroup$
Friction and turbulence from the material orbiting the black hole causes the accretion disk to heat up and emit light. The inner parts of the accretion disk get the hottest and tend to emit at the shortest wavelengths (X-rays normally) with longer wavelength (optical, IR, radio) normally coming from the material further out and above the disk which is photo-ionized by the X-rays. Depending on the density of the material in and around the accretion disk, the angle we are viewing it from and whether the accretion disk flares up at larger radii, will control what the accretion disk/AGN will appear as which part of the spectrum will be seen most strongly. There is some additional information on accretion disks and how they work at this EU Strong Gravity research site and a more technical review article in this conference proceedings.
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
answered 6 hours ago
astrosnapperastrosnapper
3,215525
3,215525
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This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
$endgroup$
– user11801
6 hours ago
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I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
$endgroup$
– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
$endgroup$
– Mark Olson
5 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
$endgroup$
– user11801
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
$endgroup$
– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
$endgroup$
– Mark Olson
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
$endgroup$
– user11801
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is great, thanks. Any idea on the second part: Since they're already round, what's that got to do with light bending?
$endgroup$
– user11801
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
$endgroup$
– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
I've not read the papers (or even the press release) in detail but I thought the proof of light bending was from the size of the black hole in the middle of the accretion disk being larger than you would expect without light bending rather than from the disk image itself ?
$endgroup$
– astrosnapper
5 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
$endgroup$
– Mark Olson
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
As @Steve Linton says in his answer, the mm waves observed by the EHT are primarily from synchrotron radiation and not from thermal radiation. See iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ab0f43/meta for some discussions and references to more.
$endgroup$
– Mark Olson
5 hours ago
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I don't know if this helps, but from what I read, the people who worked on this decided themselves what color it would be in the picture.
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– Shule
4 hours ago